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« on: July 31, 2006, 10:42:01 AM »

I don't know how many would get to read this but I thought I'd just throw this question out to you guys...

If you were granted a citizenship in the country (other than the Philippines) you are currently in, would you consider doing a dual citizenship?  I mean, I can't see any real advantages of still being a half- Filipino other than owning property back home.  But that too can be circumvented by having any property you acquire be registered to your parents.

Anyone care to share what they think?


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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2006, 12:18:04 PM »

I don't know how many would get to read this but I thought I'd just throw this question out to you guys...

If you were granted a citizenship in the country (other than the Philippines) you are currently in, would you consider doing a dual citizenship?  I mean, I can't see any real advantages of still being a half- Filipino other than owning property back home.  But that too can be circumvented by having any property you acquire be registered to your parents.

Anyone care to share what they think?


"Circumvention" on Real Estate would cause a problem when the "Parents" die ...... you would have to become a Philippine Citizen or face selling the inherited property....
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2006, 09:39:05 AM »

I thought there was something in the Philippine laws that allows foreigners to own propery.  I'm not so sure though.  Maybe the lawyers in this forum can say something about it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2006, 09:57:14 AM »

I thought there was something in the Philippine laws that allows foreigners to own propery.  I'm not so sure though.  Maybe the lawyers in this forum can say something about it.

Philippine Property Ownership

• Foreign Ownership of Philippine Real Estate & Assets

A Foreign National can only own Philippine Real Estate through the purchase of Condominium Units or Townhouses constituted under the Condominium principle with Condominium Certificates of Title [CCT Title Deeds].. [Note* Townhouses covered by a Transfer Certificate of Land Title are not allowed to be owned by Foreign Nationals]. More information on this is provided below, and or contact Paul Collingz by email plcsales@pldtdsl.net for further information. Foreign Nationals can buy condominium unit under Republic Act 4726, otherwise known as the Condominium Act, provides that no condominium unit can be sold without at the same time selling the corresponding amount of rights, shares or other interests in the condominium management body (The Condominium Corporation), and no one can buy shares in a condominium corporation without at the same time buying a condominium unit. Now the Condominium Act of the Philippines, R.A. 4726, expressly allows foreigners to acquire condominium units and shares in condominium corporations up to not more than 40 % of the total and outstanding capital stock of a Filipino owned or controlled corporation.

As for Philippine Visa Requirements, for those Nationals planning to stay for longer term visits to the Country, or for Non Philippine Nationals, a Retirement Visa may be applied through the Philippine Leisure Authority. The Philippine Leisure and Retirement Authority (PLRA) is now accepting Special Resident Retiree’s Visa (SRRV) applicants in the Philippines. In short, a deposit of USD 50,000.00 is required to be placed in a PI Bank for 6 months pending processing and release of the Visa. These cash investments may thereafter be withdrawn for the purchase of a condominium unit, shares of stock in corporations, leasehold agreements and proprietary membership shares.

For more information on Visa Requirements please check out the FAQ’s on Philippine Visa Requirements on http://www.plcsales.coms.ph  

• Right To Own Philippine Real Property

Under the pertinent provisions of the Philippine Constitution only Filipino citizens and corporations or partnerships at least 60% Philippine owned are entitled to acquire LAND in the Philippines. As an exception to this rule, foreign acquisition of Philippine real estate is allowed in the following cases. Acquisition before the 1935 constitution. Acquisition thru hereditary succession if the foreign national is a legal heir. Purchase of not more than 40% interest as a whole in a condominium project. Purchase by a former natural born Filipino citizen subject to the limitations prescribed by law. A Filipino who is married to an alien retains their Philippine citizenship, unless by their act or omission they are deemed to have renounced their Philippine citizenship. [Please see notes on the Philippine Dual Citizenship Law].

• Foreign Ownership as a Philippine Corporation

Another way for foreign nationals to invest in Philippine real estate is for the Foreign national or foreign corporation to create a Philippine corporation to hold title. This allows the Philippine corporation of a foreign national or foreign corporation less investment risk and more control of their Philippine real estate investment, and other Philippine investment assets. Foreign nationals, and corporations may 100% own a Philippine condominium or town home.

For private land, residential home with land lot and or commercial building with land lot ownership the foreign national and or corporation forms a Philippine Corporation to take ownership of the property. On paper, a Philippine Corporation by Philippine law will be a maximum of 40% foreign owned, and a minimum of 60% Filipino owned with a minimum of five incorporators. The Philippine corporation by law shall have a main bank account tied to it before and upon incorporation. A foreign national may be the sole person on the Philippine corporation bank account once after the Philippine corporation has been created and power of attorney has been handed over to the foreign investor at the time of incorporation. Thus allowing the foreign national total control over the funds derived and paid out from the Philippine Corporation and from the income or sale of the asset or real estate property.

• New Dual Citizenship Laws Affecting Property Ownership

Dual citizenship is now newly available under Philippine Law. Dual citizenship means having two citizenships and passports from two different countries. Former Philippine citizens born in the Philippines, but that have immigrated to another country and obtained citizenship of that country. A foreign spouse married to a Philippine citizen. Dual citizenship allows the citizenship holder full rights of possession of Philippine real estate property.

* Philippine's Embraces Dual Citizenship [September 19, 2003]

In a landmark bill, the Philippine Government enacted Citizenship Retention and Reacquisition Act. With this act, the decades-old ban on dual Philippine citizenship was thrown away. The Philippine Congress recognized that in today's world, Filipinos have dispersed around the world and have even taken on the nationality of their new home countries while maintaining their strong ties to the Filipino community, heritage and families.

Unfortunately, prior to this act, a Filipino who naturalized in another country, such as the U.S. lost Filipino citizenship. The Philippine Congress recognized that this seriously affected the unity of Filipinos overseas with those in the Philippines. It also had drastic consequences with prior Filipinos losing interest in investing in the Philippines.

The new act allows all prior Filipinos who lost their Philippine citizenship because they became citizens of another country to regain Philippine citizenship. It also allows Filipinos who want to naturalize in another country, like the United States for example, to keep their Philippine citizenship. Reacquiring and retaining citizenship allows dual national Filipinos to vote and run for elected office.

The children of Filipinos who reacquire citizenship are also affected. Those unmarried children, under the age of 18 will also be considered to be citizens of the Philippines. This includes legitimate, adopted, and illegitimate children.

The reacquisition of Philippine citizenship is not automatic. Filipinos who lost Philippine citizenship when they became citizens of anther country must swear an oath of allegiance. The oath is found in the text of the act, and in the coming months the Philippine Department of Justice will provide rules on the administration of the oath. One can envision that former Filipinos overseas need appear at their local Consulate to take oath and apply for Philippine passport.

The new act accepts back, with open arms, Filipinos who lost their citizenship. It embraces dual citizenship and recognizes that in today's day and age dual citizenship is a desirable factor for Filipinos who maintain their allegiance to their homeland.

• Foreigner Married to a Philippine Citizen

If holding title as an individual, a typical situation would be that a foreigner married to a Philippine citizen would hold title in the Philippine spouses name. The foreign spouse name cannot be on the property Title but can be on the contract to buy the property. In the event of death of the Philippine spouse, the foreign spouse is allowed a reasonable amount of time to dispose of the property and collect the proceeds or the property will pass to any Philippine heirs and or relatives. As a foreign investor caution should be taken upon considering taking title to real estate in this manner.

• Condominium Residential Commercial Development Ownership Law

Presidential Decree No. 957, which regulates the sale of subdivision and condominium developments. The National Housing Authority has exclusive jurisdiction to regulate real estate trade and business, a function, which is presently exercised by the Housing and Land Use Regulatory Board (HLURB). Certain conditions are required before a license to sell condominium development units and or subdivision development lots and homes is issued to a Filipino or Foreign owned individual or corporation. The requirements include a certificate of registration, a performance bond, and an approval of the building plans and specifications.

For further information please do not hesitate to contact the undersigned.

Beth Collingz
Director - PLC International Marketing Networks
 

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2006, 09:28:00 AM »

This is a great help for me.  Thanks for the feedback. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2006, 05:48:08 PM »

This is a great help for me.  Thanks for the feedback. Smiley

My pleasure Jun !
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2006, 09:01:17 PM »

SC upholds right of dual citizens to vote

This Philippine Supreme Court ruling might be of interest to Philippine American Dual Citizens.....


By Tetch Torres INQ7.net
Last updated 07:14pm (Mla time) 08/04/2006

THE Supreme Court on Friday upheld the right of Filipinos with dual citizenship to cast votes for President, Vice-President, senators, and party list representatives.

In a unanimous 14-page decision penned by Justice Cancio C. Garcia, the Court today granted the petition by Loida Nicolas-Lewis and 10 other US-based dual citizens to compel the Commission on Elections to allow them to exercise their voting rights.

“The essence of this decision is dual citizens will enjoy the same rights as the absentee voters,” Supreme Court spokesman Ismael Khan said.

Nicolas and her fellow petitioners had sought to register as overseas absentee voters for the 2004 national elections.

However, they were advised by Philippine consular officers in the US of a September 23, 2003 letter from the Commission on Elections, coursed through the Department of Foreign Affairs, saying they did not have the right to vote.

Aside from Nicolas-Lewis, the other petitioners were Gregorio Macabenta, Alejandro Esclamado, Armando Heredia, Reuben Seguritan, Eric Lachica Furbeyre, Teresita Cruz, Josefina Opena Disterhoft, Mercedes Opena, Cornelio and Evelyn Natividad.

The high court said that “there is no provision in the dual citizenship law…requiring ‘duals’ to actually establish residence and physically stay in the Philippines first before they can exercise their right to vote.”

“On the contrary,” it said, “RA 9225, in implicit acknowledgment that ‘duals’ are most likely non-residents, grants under its Section 5(1) the same right of suffrage as that granted an absentee voter under RA 9189,” or the Absentee Voting Law.

“It cannot be overemphasized that RA 9289 aims, in essence, to enfranchise as much as possible all overseas Filipinos who, save for the residency requirements exacted of an ordinary voter under ordinary conditions, are qualified to vote,” it said.

The decision also noted that the “expanded thrust” of RA 9189 grants the right of suffrage to “what we may tag as the next generation of duals (citizens),” or those at least 18 years of age who have never set foot in the Philippines.”

Thus, it said, there was neither “rhyme or reason why the petitioners and other present-day duals be denied the right to suffrage as an overseas absentee voter,” in effect exempting dual citizens from the residency requirements prescribed under Section 1, Article V of the Constitution.

“Considering the unison intent of the Constitution and RA 9819 and the expansion of the scope of that law with the passage of RA 9225, the irresistible conclusion is that ‘duals’ may now exercise their right of suffrage thru the absentee voting scheme and as overseas absentee voters,” the Court stressed.

“Accordingly, the Court rules and so holds that those who retain or re-acquire Philippine citizenship under Republic Act No. 9225, the Citizenship Retention and Re-Acquisition Act of 2003, may exercise the right to vote under the system of absentee voting in Republic Act No. 9189, the Overseas Absentee Voting Act of 2003,” the Court said.

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2006, 11:20:13 PM »

I guess it's just important if you plan to own propety in the Philippines.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2006, 05:54:48 AM »

 Smiley Buddy how are you? that's a simple problem..just go on have that dual citizenship, its very important for filipino like you working in other countries..
Owning a property in the philippines for you is a not a bog problem. when you retires and plan to settle here in the philippines, what you have to do is to reacquire your filipino citizenship by plegde in proper authorities of the the governement.
Owning a property in the philippines is every filipino immigrants dream. let me help you realize that dream....

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2006, 09:49:05 AM »

Of course the other benefit, not only limited to the owning of real property [land] in the Philippines, is that with Dual Citizenship you would avoid the Visa Requirement, Visa extensions for more than 21 days stay, and other registration requirements with the Bureau of Immigration as a Non-Philippine National.....
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